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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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build του δημοφιλή emu που απ'ότι φαίνεται θα μας απασχολεί για αρκετά χρόνια ακόμη.

WinVICE SVN r29549
WinVICE SVN Changelog:
r29549
Define EOVERFLOW if not defined.
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/vice-emu/
ή
http://down.emucr.com/v3/6037352380104704 (χ86)
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Nightly Builds απο εδω:

http://vice.pokefinder.org/

Γενικα να αποφευγετε το EmuCr γιατι πολλα compiled exe κατα καιρους δεν δουλευουν...
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Εικόνα
* Changes in VICE 3.0
======================

** General
----------

- New SDL based Android port.

- New Windows RT port.

- New Sortix port.

- New SDL2 support.

- New SCPU64 emulator (xscpu64).

- New KoalaPad emulation.

- New high pass filter emulation for DAC based devices (SFX sound sampler,
DigiMAX cartridge, DigiMAX shortbus device, userport DAC,
userport DigiMAX device, DigiBlaster SIDcart add-on).

- New sampler sound input support, used by sfx sound sampler, digiblaster
and userport/joyport sampler devices.

- New tapeport system supporting the following devices: datasette, tapelog,
cp-clockf83, tape-sense dongle, (not yet working) dtl basic dongle.

- New Inkwell Systems lightpen emulation.

- New scroll wheel support for the Micromys mouse emulation.

- New "printer/plotter" Commodore 1520 emulation.

- New 1540 drive emulation.

- New native (koala/doodle) screenshot support.

- new godot screenshot support.

- New keyrah keymaps.

- Extended the 'RS232 net' support to all platforms that support networking.

- RTC offset and RAM contents can now be saved.

- Documentation in PDF and TXT format.

** C64(SC)/C128 changes
-----------------------

- New IDE64 v4.2 emulation.

- New IDE64 USB server emulation.

- New IDE64 DigiMAX short bus device emulation.

- New IDE64 ETFE short bus device emulation.

- New RGCD cartridge emulation.

- New Final Cartridge III+ emulation.

- New rrnet mk3 cartridge emulation.

- New easy calc result cartridge emulation.

- New GMod2 cartridge emulation.

- New MMC64, MMCReplay, RetroReplay and IDE64 clockport emulation.

- New RRNET clockport device emulation.

- New MP3@64 clockport device emulation.

- New joyport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices to the native ports: joystick, paddles, 1351 mouse, neos mouse,
amiga mouse, atari cx22 mouse, atari-st mouse, smartmouse, micromys
mouse, koalapad, generic lightpens, datel light pen, magnum light phaser,
stack light rifle, inkwell light pen, 2bit sampler, 4bit sampler, bbrtc,
paperclip64 dongle, coplin keypad, cardco cardkey 1 keypad, atari cx85
keypad, rushware keypad, atari cx21 keypad. And the following devices to
the various userport joystick adapters: joystick, neos mouse, amiga mouse,
atari cx22 mouse, atari-st mouse, 2bit sampler, 4bit sampler, bbrtc,
paperclip64 dongle, coplin keypad, rushware keypad.

- New Userport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices: rtc58321a, ds1307 rtc, dac, digimax, 4bit mono sampler, 8bit
stereo sampler, cga joystick adapter, pet joystick adapter, hummer
joystick adapter, oem joystick adapter, hit joystick adapter, kingsoft
joystick adapter, starbyte joystick adapter.

** C128 changes
---------------

- New Swiss ROM support.

** C64(SC) changes
------------------

- New Sony CXA2025AS NTSC palette.

- New CP/M (Z80) cartridge emulation.

** C64SC changes
----------------

- New VICII VSP-bug emulation.

** C64DTV changes
-----------------

- New joyport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices to the native ports: joystick, 2bit sampler, 4bit sampler,
bbrtc, paperclip64 dongle, coplin keypad, rushware keypad. And the
following devices to the hummer userport joystick adapter: joystick,
2bit sampler, 4bit sampler, bbrtc, paperclip64 dongle, coplin keypad,
rushware keypad.

- New Userport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices: hummer joystick adapter.

** VIC20 changes
----------------

- New UltiMem cartridge emulation.

- New I/O-2 RAM cartridge emulation.

- New I/O-3 RAM cartridge emulation.

- New BehrBonz cartridge emulation.

- New mike's VFLI modification emulation.

- New joyport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices to the native port: joystick, paddles, 1351 mouse, neos mouse,
amiga mouse, atari cx22 mouse, atari-st mouse, smartmouse, micromys
mouse, koalapad, generic lightpens, datel light pen, magnum light phaser,
stack light rifle, inkwell light pen, 2bit sampler, 4bit sampler, bbrtc,
paperclip64 dongle, coplin keypad, cardco cardkey 1 keypad, atari cx85
keypad, rushware keypad, atari cx21 keypad. And the following devices to
the various userport joystick adapters: joystick, neos mouse, amiga mouse,
atari cx22 mouse, atari-st mouse, 2bit sampler, 4bit sampler, bbrtc,
paperclip64 dongle, coplin keypad, rushware keypad.

- New Userport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices: rtc58321a, ds1307 rtc, dac, cga joystick adapter, pet
joystick adapter, hummer joystick adapter, oem joystick adapter.

** PLUS4 changes
----------------

- New userport emulation.

- New joyport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices to the native port: joystick, neos mouse, amiga mouse, atari cx22
mouse, atari-st mouse, 2bit sampler, 4bit sampler, bbrtc, paperclip64
dongle, coplin keypad, rushware keypad. The following devices to the
various userport joystick adapters: joystick, neos mouse, amiga mouse,
atari cx22 mouse, atari-st mouse, 2bit sampler, 4bit sampler, bbrtc,
paperclip64 dongle, coplin keypad, rushware keypad. And the following
devices to the sidcart joystick port: joystick, paddles, 1351 mouse,
neos mouse, amiga mouse, atari cx22 mouse, atari-st mouse, smartmouse,
micromys mouse, koalapad, 2bit sampler, 4bit sampler, bbrtc, paperclip64
dongle, coplin keypad, cardco cardkey 1 keypad, atari cx85 keypad,
rushware keypad, atari cx21 keypad.

- New Userport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices: dac, pet joystick adapter, hummer joystick adapter, oem
joystick adapter.

** PET changes
--------------

- New PET HRE (High Res Emulator) board emulation.

- New 2-chip colour board emulation.

- New joyport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices to the various userport joystick adapters: joystick, neos
mouse, amiga mouse, atari cx22 mouse, atari-st mouse, 2bit sampler,
4bit sampler, bbrtc, paperclip64 dongle, coplin keypad, rushware
keypad.

- New Userport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices: rtc58321a, ds1307 rtc, dac, cga joystick adapter, pet
joystick adapter, hummer joystick adapter, oem joystick adapter.

** CBM6x0/7x0 changes
---------------------

- New joyport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices to the various userport joystick adapters: joystick, neos
mouse, amiga mouse, atari cx22 mouse, atari-st mouse, 2bit sampler,
4bit sampler, bbrtc, paperclip64 dongle, coplin keypad, rushware
keypad.

- New Userport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices: rtc58321a, ds1307 rtc, dac, digimax, 4bit mono sampler, 8bit
stereo sampler, cga joystick adapter, pet joystick adapter, hummer
joystick adapter, oem joystick adapter.

** CBM5x0 changes
-----------------

- New joyport system which currently supports attaching the following
devices to the native port: joystick, paddles, 1351 mouse, neos mouse,
amiga mouse, atari cx22 mouse, atari-st mouse, smartmouse, micromys
mouse, koalapad, 2bit sampler, 4bit sampler, bbrtc, paperclip64 dongle,
coplin keypad, cardco cardkey 1 keypad, atari cx85 keypad, rushware
keypad, atari cx21 keypad.

** PETCAT changes
-----------------

- New Kipper Basic support.

- New Basic on Bails support.

- New The Tool 64 support.

- New Eve Basic support.

** VSID changes
---------------

- New RSID BASIC tunes support.

- New Compute Gazette SIDplayer files (mus/str) support.

- New psid v4 3sid support.

** Unix changes
---------------

- New multi-threaded GUI display.

- New joystick status items in the GTK GUI.

- New hardware SID I/O access system which allows PCI CW3,
ISA/PCI HardSID, ParSID and SSI2001 to work with and
without device drivers.

** MS-Windows changes
---------------------

- Documentation in CHM and HLP format.

- New hardware SID I/O access system which allows PCI CW3,
ISA/PCI HardSID, ParSID and SSI2001 to work with and
without device drivers.

** AmigaOS changes
------------------

- New hardware SID I/O access system which allows
clockport/Zorro/PCI CW3, ISA/PCI HardSID and SSI2001 to
work with and without device drivers.

- Documentation in AmigaGuide format.

** BeOS/Haiku changes
---------------------

- GUI fixes and improvements.

- New support for Haiku native x86_gcc2, x86, and x86_64 binaries.

- New "bsp" sound driver inspired by SDL (and used by default on Haiku,)
which should produce sound on all systems where SDL programs can.
This has been tested on Haiku R1 Alpha3 where the old "beos" driver
produces only crashes.

- New hardware SID I/O access system which allows PCI CW3,
ISA/PCI HardSID, ParSID and SSI2001 to work with and
without device drivers.

- Due to the addition of the hardware SID I/O access system, binaries built
for BeOS no longer run under Haiku. Please use Haiku native binaries.

** DOS changes
--------------

- New hardware SID I/O access system which allows PCI CW3,
ISA/PCI HardSID, ParSID and SSI2001 to work with and
without device drivers.

** OS/2 changes
---------------

- Documentation in INF format.
Ενώ
Starting with VICE 3.0 we are switching to an actual release schedule. We will have a release once every 3 months.
θα ανανεώνεται πλέον σε τρίμηνη βάση .


:arrow: VICE official D/load page http://vice-emu.sourceforge.net/index.html#download
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imagine emulating ....
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Θαυμάσια νέα !!!
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Nemo έγραψε:
Ενώ
Starting with VICE 3.0 we are switching to an actual release schedule. We will have a release once every 3 months.
θα ανανεώνεται πλέον σε τρίμηνη βάση .


:arrow: VICE official D/load page http://vice-emu.sourceforge.net/index.html#download
Τα Nightly Builds ενημερωνονται καθημερινα για οποιον δεν μπορει να περιμενει 3 μηνες...
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VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) 3.2

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* Changes in VICE 3.2
======================

** General
----------

- New (experimental) GTK3 native port, this and the SDL(2) port will replace
all other ports (which will get removed) in VICE 3.3 and onward.

- Handling of the `-keybuf` command now works properly for all emulators and
RAM sizes.

- Fixed handling of LOAD"$$" with virtual devices.

- Fixed @CD, @MD and @RD commands for virtual filesystem devices.

- Fixed NEOS Mouse emulation.

- Call the new CIA "8521" instead of "6526A" (which is wrong) in the UIs.

- Added 4sid support.

- Fixed tape wobble.

- Erase timing fixes in flash core.

- Don't allocate sectors on tracks > 70 in the BAM of 1571 images.

- Ethernet emulation: fix register mapping in rr-net mode.

- reSID: fixed envelope bugs shown by testprogs/SID/env_test/.

- Fixed 6509 CPU port issues.

- Added support for TAP virtual network interface.

- Fixed drive clock overflow. Drive and host went out of sync on clock overflow
(every ~4G cycles), which would break loading or custom drive code in the case
loader/stuff is not idle during overflow window. Also drive would execute
~4G cycles out of sync, which made the emulator freeze for a while.

** Monitor
----------

- Fix monitor 'm' command buffer overflow.

- Added conditional on values in memory to breakpoint handling.


** SDL changes
--------------

- Cosmetic overhaul of the SDL UI.

- New drag'n'drop support for the SDL2 port(s).

- Fixed monitor display of printables with the 'M' (memdump) command.

- Fixed drive status display in statusbar.

- Added "advance frame".

- Disable the mouse pointer unless we really need it.

- Change MacOSX SDL menu key to F10 to accommodate old MacBooks etc.

- Change default menu key for sdl amiga based platforms to 'F10'.

- Added default hotkey files (with hotkeys similar to existing GUIs).

- Added various keymaps for use with keyrah in combian/retropie.

- Added controller mapping file for PS3 controller.


** Android changes
------------------

- Do not enable mouse emulation by default.


** Mac OS X changes
-------------------

- Reinstated the Cocoa UI's Video Settings dialog. Some of the controls
don't work properly, but it's better than nothing.

- Added a PET model selection menu to the Cocoa UI.

- Fixed Cocoa UI's CPU memory window display. It still requires the monitor
to be activated before it will show anything, however.


** OS/2 changes
---------------

- Removed native OS/2 port. The native OS/2 port has been lagging behind
severely, and the recently added SDL OS/2 port is up-to-date, making the
unmaintained native OS/2 port obsolete.


** C1541 changes
----------------

- Fixed illegal characters in filenames for the read and extract commands.


** C64(SC) changes
------------------

- Fixed enabling/disabling memory expansion hacks.

- New tapecart emulation.

- Added waasoft dongle emulation.

- Fixed initial cpuport data.

- Added support for 256k magic desk images, ie DDI Magic Cart. Also allow 512k
and 1M magic desk carts (some homebrew variant).

- plus60k memory write fix.

- Fix plus256k emulation.

- Added fmopl (sfx sound expander) timer support.

- Fixed saving of GMOD2 cartridge image.


** C128 changes
---------------

- New tapecart emulation.

- Fixed MMU mirrors.


** CBM2 changes
---------------

- Allow+fix loading of 8k chargen.

- Fixed ESC-Z/ESC-Y.



:arrow: VICE 3.2 official D/load page http://vice-emu.sourceforge.net/index.html#download
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imagine emulating ....
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Εξομοιωτάρα !!!!

Iδίως αν μεγάλωσε κανείς με Commodόρε..
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Άσχετο αλλά σημαντικό. Αν έχεις το πληκτρολόγιο στα Ελληνικά, η μάρκα είναι Ψομμοδορε. Ταιριάζει γάντι. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Παππού όλος ο κόσμος ανησυχεί μήπως η σχέση σου με την πιτσιρίκα αποβεί μοιραία.
-Τι να κάνουμε παιδί μου...αν πεθάνει - πέθανε...
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Και ακριβώς έτσι πούλησε.
Σαν ζεστό ψωμί .
Και το απαίσιο -κατά κάποιους- καφέ του ?
Σαν λαχταριστή μερέντα.

Τώρα το να τον αποκαλούν έτσι ακριβώς = Ψομμοδορε οι μη έχοντες
δεν κάνει παρά τίποτα άλλο
παρά να αποκαλύπτει ενδεχομένως ->λανθάνουσα γλώσσα λέει την αλήθεια-
τον καταπιεσμένο ενδόμυχο πόθο το απωθημένο τους για αυτό .

Και μια και πιάσατε τα ελληνικά :roll: υπάρχει και μια λέξη που χαρακτηρίζει όλους αυτούς .

Ψομμοδεείς .

:twisted: :P :lol:
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Υ.Γ.
Και μην ξεχνάμε ότι ο Maddog μπορεί να μας μπριζώνει

αλλά αυτός είναι ο topic starter του παρόντος Ψομμοdoro-thread .
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Να γράψω κι εγώ κάτι στο ψωμοthread: Κάτι δεν μου πάει καλά με το changelog, ας πούμε 4sid support, που αναφέρεται ως νέα δυνατότητα στην 3.2, είχε και η 3.1, όπως και "Advance Frame", άρα τι άλλαξε τελικά, οέο; Πάντως προσωπικά μου φαίνεται "pretty much the same"...
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Nemo έγραψε:Και ακριβώς έτσι πούλησε.
Σαν ζεστό ψωμί .
Και το απαίσιο -κατά κάποιους- καφέ του ?
Σαν λαχταριστή μερέντα.

Τώρα το να τον αποκαλούν έτσι ακριβώς = Ψομμοδορε οι μη έχοντες
δεν κάνει παρά τίποτα άλλο
παρά να αποκαλύπτει ενδεχομένως ->λανθάνουσα γλώσσα λέει την αλήθεια-
τον καταπιεσμένο ενδόμυχο πόθο το απωθημένο τους για αυτό .

Και μια και πιάσατε τα ελληνικά :roll: υπάρχει και μια λέξη που χαρακτηρίζει όλους αυτούς .

Ψομμοδεείς .

:twisted: :P :lol:
ΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑ, κλαίω. Πολύ καλό το post. Και ας είναι αχώνευτο το μηχάνημα σας. Σαν ψωμί που το άφησες να μπαγιατέψει από το 1982 μέχρι σήμερα... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nemo έγραψε:Υ.Γ.
Και μην ξεχνάμε ότι ο Maddog μπορεί να μας μπριζώνει

αλλά αυτός είναι ο topic starter του παρόντος Ψομμοdoro-thread .
Βλέποντας την ημερομηνία, θα το κατατάξω στις νεανικές απερισκεψίες. :mrgreen:
Παππού όλος ο κόσμος ανησυχεί μήπως η σχέση σου με την πιτσιρίκα αποβεί μοιραία.
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) 3.2

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This release stabilizes and introduces the GTK3 UI as the primary user interface
for all major ports. For "lesser" platforms we still have the SDL1/SDL2 based
interface. All other user interfaces have been removed. RIP

We are still looking for dedicated maintainers for the Windows- and macOS ports,
if you want to help improving these and/or want to provide binaries, please get
in touch.

General
----------

- Old, unmaintained, ports removed:
MacOS Cocoa: use SDL or Gtk3
WinVice: use SDL or Gtk3
BeOS/Haiku: use SDL
AmigaOS: use SDL
Unix Xaw: use SDL or Gtk3
Unix Gtk2: use SDL or Gtk3
OS/2: use SDL

- Fix building against external ffmpeg >= 4.0

- Fix errors in multi-SID code

- added single SNES pad emulation (compatible to Ninjas adapter/TrapThem64)

- Make VICE much faster by using -O3 vs -O2

- add a slot number before the literal name of a game-controller, which is less
confusing when more than one controller of the same type is used

- fix parsing of the commandline with -config first

- added dutch to list of keyboard mappings


Unix fixes
-------------

- the sleep function was not handling timer overflows properly, which happens
every 4 seconds on a 32bit machine with nanosleep()


macOS fixes
--------------

- Enabled the use of the CoreAudio driver in macOS SDL builds.
- Removed the legacy requirement for X11.app when launching VICE.app


ReSID fixes
--------------

- tweak uCox value
- correctly emulate filter cutoff transistor both in triode and saturation mode
- Split ReSID resource into 6581/8580-specific resources (passthrough/gain/bias)
- various envelope generator fixes
- use different timing on 6581/8580 for noise register reset when testbit is set
- noise shift register is clocked once after reset


VIC fixes
---------------

- corrected green color angle according to colodore website
- fix lumas according to 'colodore'


VIC-II fixes
---------------

- corrected green color angle according to colodore website
- fix lumas according to 'colodore'
- added ChristopherJam palette


TED fixes
---------------

- corrected color angles according to colodore website
- fix lumas according to 'colodore'


VIA fixes
------------

- fixed initial state of the I/O ports


CIA fixes
------------

- fixed initial state of the I/O ports


Monitor
----------

- io d600 (x128 VDC register dump) expanded

- in memory dump limit the number of bytes per line to a power of two.

- instead of limiting disassembler output to a number of bytes, limit it to the
height of the current terminal


c1541
--------

- Fix `geosread` command
- Add tilde (~) expansion in `write` command (Unix only)
- Add P00Save support to `extract` command


Drive changes
----------------

- Fix WD1770 formatting issues

- fix mapping of sfd-1001 ram

- Fix trap_rom offset for 2040/4040


C64 changes
--------------

- support extra 64k eprom on the comal80 cartridge

- added symbolic keymaps for dutch keyboard layout


C128 changes
---------------

- Autostart fixes

- Stability improvements

- VIC mirroring fixed

- VDC emulation improvements
Interlace mode is supported in text and graphics modes
(renderers still need work to handle the interlace effect properly)
STATUS flag is partially emulated
Rendering unusual character widths and in the inter-character gap
Semi-graphics mode fixes
Alternate character set fixes
Cursor rendering
Smooth scrolling in 40 column (pixel double) mode
vertical positioning (include register 5)

- added norwegian c128 chargen


Gtk3 UI
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- Remember last used settings "page" in the settings UI

- Remember last used directory for various file dialogs

- Popup menus for the drive widgets in the status bar:
Show directory of currently attached disk image
Add menu shortcut to the drive settings UI
Add Reset drive #X item

- Mixer/CRT widgets: various fixes

- Move cpu/fps display to the statusbar from the title bar

- Add popup menu to the cpu/fps display widget to control refresh rate, speed,
warp and pause/advance frame

- Add popup menu to the joystick widget to allow swapping joysticks and
userport joysticks, add shortcut menu item to joystick settings UI

- Add cartridge content preview to the cart-attach dialog
(x64/x64sc/xscpu64/x128)

- Dynamically load CBM font

- Don't allow the mouse cursor to 'escape' during mouse grab

- Unhide mouse pointer in dialogs during mouse grab

- Add setting a cartridge as default

- Improve model settings UI behaviour

- Add "Fullscreen on boot" checkbutton and -fullscreen command line option

- x128: Bring either VDC or VICII display to front depending on 40/80 col key

- VTE pulled into the sourcetree, which allows using the same monitor window
in all ports

- Terminal- or GUI based monitor can be selected at runtime in all ports

- introduced new VICE logo provided by Bjoern Odendahl (thanks!)

- fix assignment of user keymaps
.....
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: D/load VICE 3.3 από την official page του εξομοιωτή http://vice-emu.sourceforge.net/index.html#download
if" Imitation is the sincerest flattery",
imagine emulating ....
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Re: VICE & WinVICE (C64 Emu) ~ Official Thread

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Maddog έγραψε:Άσχετο αλλά σημαντικό. Αν έχεις το πληκτρολόγιο στα Ελληνικά, η μάρκα είναι Ψομμοδορε. Ταιριάζει γάντι. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Με ακόμα μεγαλύτερο ενδιαφέρον παρατηρώ από το άνωθεν whatsnew πως κάποιοι έχουν φτιάξει site που λέγεται Κωλοdore. Nuff said. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Παππού όλος ο κόσμος ανησυχεί μήπως η σχέση σου με την πιτσιρίκα αποβεί μοιραία.
-Τι να κάνουμε παιδί μου...αν πεθάνει - πέθανε...
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